Old Books with Grace
Listening to the past can help us to understand our present. Dr. Grace Hamman, medievalist and writer, guides listeners to approach often intimidating works of literature and theology and learn to ask questions of our current age. Let‘s read old books together and discover truths about God and ourselves.
Listening to the past can help us to understand our present. Dr. Grace Hamman, medievalist and writer, guides listeners to approach often intimidating works of literature and theology and learn to ask questions of our current age. Let‘s read old books together and discover truths about God and ourselves.
Episodes

Wednesday Oct 01, 2025
The Seven Capital Vices with Rebecca DeYoung
Wednesday Oct 01, 2025
Wednesday Oct 01, 2025
Grace invites on one of her heroes (!), Professor Rebecca Konyndyk DeYoung, professor of medieval philosophy and author of Glittering Vices. They talk Aquinas, vices, Jane Austen, and more in this delightful conversation.
Rebecca DeYoung (Ph.D. University of Notre Dame) has enjoyed teaching ethics and the history of ancient and medieval philosophy at Calvin College for over 20 years. Her research focuses on the seven deadly sins, and virtue ethics, as well as Thomas Aquinas’s work on the virtues. Her books include Glittering Vices, Vainglory, and a co-authored volume entitled Aquinas’s Ethics. Awards for her work include the Book and Essay Prize from the Character Project and the C.S. Lewis prize for Glittering Vices. She speaks widely, including opportunities to teach in prison. She and her husband Scot live in Grand Rapids, near the beautiful Lake Michigan shoreline. They have four adult children.
Check out Grace's new book, Ask of Old Paths: Medieval Virtues & Vices for a Whole & Holy Life

Wednesday Sep 17, 2025
Virtues & Vices with Scott & Grace Hamman
Wednesday Sep 17, 2025
Wednesday Sep 17, 2025
Welcome to season six of Old Books with Grace! Today, the tables are turned. Grace welcomes her very own husband, the wonderfully handsome, talented, and clever structural engineer, Scott Hamman, to interview her on her new book, Ask of Old Paths: Medieval Virtues & Vices for a Whole & Holy Life. This episode kicks off a lovely series on virtues and vices this fall featuring many wonderful thinkers.
Get Ask of Old Paths on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Thriftbooks, Target, Bookshop.org, or best of all, contact your local bookstore, or ask your library to purchase a copy!
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Tuesday May 13, 2025
Beauty, Art, and Thomas Aquinas with Daniel McInerny
Tuesday May 13, 2025
Tuesday May 13, 2025
In today's episode, Grace welcomes Dr. Daniel McInerney to think about some big questions: what is the relationship between beauty and art? Art and imitation? This conversation ranges from Aristotle to Austen in its exploration of literary, visual, and dramatic art.
Daniel McInerny is associate professor and chair of the philosophy department at Christendom College in Front Royal, Virginia. Daniel is the author of Beauty & Imitation: A Philosophical Reflection on the Arts. He is also a novelist and dramatist and writes the Substack newsletter, The Comic Muse, a review of culture and the arts. Daniel and his wife Amy have three grown children and two adorable grandchildren and live in the beautiful Shenandoah Valley of Virginia.
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Wednesday Apr 16, 2025
Little Gidding with Lisa Ampleman: Four Quartets, Lent 2025
Wednesday Apr 16, 2025
Wednesday Apr 16, 2025
Welcome to Old Books with Grace! Today marks the final episode in the Old Books with Grace Lent Series, on T.S. Eliot’s Four Quartets.
Today we read Little Gidding as poet and editor Lisa Ampleman joins Grace for a thoughtful conversation.
Lisa Ampleman is the author of a chapbook and three full-length books of poetry, most recently Mom in Space (2024) and Romances (2020), both with LSU Press. Her work has appeared recently on Poetry Daily and Verse Daily and in journals including 32 Poems, Colorado Review, Cortland Review, Ecotone, Georgia Review, The Rumpus, Shenandoah, and Southern Review. She lives in Cincinnati and is the managing editor of The Cincinnati Review and poetry series editor at Acre Books.
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Wednesday Apr 02, 2025
The Dry Salvages with Andy Patton: Four Quartets, Lent 2025
Wednesday Apr 02, 2025
Wednesday Apr 02, 2025
Welcome to Old Books with Grace! Today marks the third episode in the Old Books with Grace Lent Series, on T.S. Eliot’s Four Quartets.
Today we read The Dry Salvages as poet and editor Andy Patton joins Grace for a lively discussion.
Andy Patton is the creator of the Darkling Psalter, a collection of creative renditions of the Psalms. He holds an M.A. in theology from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School. He is the Director of Content for the Rabbit Room and is a former staff member at L'Abri Fellowship in England.
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Wednesday Mar 19, 2025
East Coker with O. Alan Noble: Four Quartets, Lent 2025
Wednesday Mar 19, 2025
Wednesday Mar 19, 2025
Lent is a time of repentance, reflection, and reconciliation. These are actions that happen in time, facilitated by memory and love. So even though we, as followers of Christ, repent, reflect, and reconcile year-round, one hopes, we set aside a time to especially do so, to be as intentional as we can, to pay special attention to our blessed limitations as creatures of God. It is easy to let these things go.
This is what Lent is for. It so happens that these themes—love, memory, time, attention, repentance, creatureliness—are also themes extensively explored in T.S. Eliot’s masterpiece set of poems, the Four Quartets. Each episode in this Lent series, Grace will be discussing one of the quartets with a guest. Today Grace welcomes Professor O. Alan Noble for a thoughtful conversation on East Coker, the second poem.
Dr. O. Alan Noble is Associate Professor of English at Oklahoma Baptist University, a fellow at the Keller Center for Cultural Apologetics, and author of three books: On Getting Out of Bed: The Burden and Gift of Living, You Are Not Your Own: Belonging to God in an Inhuman World, and Disruptive Witness: Speaking Truth in a Distracted Age. Dr. Noble has published articles at The Atlantic, The Gospel Coalition, First Things, and Christianity Today. He lives with his wife and three children.
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Wednesday Mar 05, 2025
Burnt Norton with Paul Pastor: Four Quartets, Lent 2025
Wednesday Mar 05, 2025
Wednesday Mar 05, 2025
Welcome to Old Books with Grace! Today is Ash Wednesday, the start of Lent 2025. And today begins the Old Books with Grace Lent Series, on T.S. Eliot’s Four Quartets.
Lent is a time of repentance, reflection, and reconciliation. These are actions that happen in time, facilitated by memory and love. So even though we, as followers of Christ, repent, reflect, and reconcile year-round, one hopes, we set aside a time to especially do so, to be as intentional as we can, to pay special attention to our blessed limitations as creatures of God. It is easy to let these things go.
This is what Lent is for. It so happens that these themes—love, memory, time, attention, repentance, creatureliness—are also themes extensively explored in T.S. Eliot’s masterpiece set of poems, the Four Quartets. Each episode in this Lent series, Grace will be discussing one of the quartets with a guest. Today is the first, Burnt Norton, and poet and editor Paul Pastor joins Grace for a lively discussion.
Paul J. Pastor is Executive Editor of Nelson Books at HarperCollins, an essayist, critic, and poet, writer of The Rose Fire on Substack, and author of several books, most recently The Locust Years: Poems, from Wiseblood Books. He lives in Oregon.
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Wednesday Feb 19, 2025
Meeting Zwingli the Reformer with Stephen Eccher
Wednesday Feb 19, 2025
Wednesday Feb 19, 2025
Zwingli is one of those names that floats around the ether--but in comparison to his more famous reforming counterparts, like Luther or Calvin, he doesn't get brought up much. Grace welcomes author and professor Stephen Eccher to discuss this radical reformer and his sixteenth-century impact.
Stephen Brett Eccher is Associate Professor of Church History and Reformation Studies at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary in Wake Forest, North Carolina, where he has taught since 2012. His academic work focuses primarily on Reformation history and theology, especially at the intersection of the sixteenth century Swiss Reformed and Swiss Anabaptist traditions.
He is the author of numerous journal articles and chapters on the Protestant Reformation and the book Zwingli the Pastor: A Life in Conflict (Bellingham: Lexham Press, 2023). Stephen and his wife Cara have four daughters and have been members at Open Door Baptist Church in Raleigh, North Carolina for twenty-three years where Stephen serves as an elder.
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